Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Philco 91-221 (25 HZ) metal capacitor block 4989-K
#1

This is my first post.
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/pagesbymodel...013884.pdf

#56 in schematic

This is my first foray into the Philco bakelite blocks.  The regular ones go just fine.  I have the master key with the connections and the discontinued's, etc.  My problem is with the metal encased blocks, specifically 4989-k, noted as a 0.18mfd or, actually, two 0.09's.  There is no actual bakelite in this condenser bank.

Upon dissection of the old capacitor, there were 2 halves in the tar, separated by a paper insulator.  I could find no connection between the 2 halves.  There is no number on the metal case.

3 wires come out one end of the block. A bare ground wire to the metal case (subsequently grounded to chassis) was present on other end.

One half of the bank is wired to the filter choke and the rectifier tube.
The other half is wired to the electrolytics, the other wire to the ground as noted above.
Again, no apparent connection between the halves of the condenser block.

I have to admit my sophomoric level of understanding with regards to reading schematics.

My question regards rebuilding the block:
Should I re-wire it as I dissected it, using a 0.1 mfd in place of each side of the bank, or try to directly place them in parallel and somehow then make the connections?

Thank you, in advance.
Brian
#2

It does not matter.

First of I am not sure why you think #56 is a backelite inside the block. It is probably just a standalone backelite cap.
Better yet it was determinded the #56 cap is pretty useless and could be dropped altogether.

When I rebuild my blocks i twist all teh caps that go to GND together, solder it to teh case with a flexible wire, wrap in fish paper and push inside.
Those not grounded, just put out the wires the way they are shown on the sch.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Atwater-Kent 84, restoration.
Well, powering it up would be too good to be true, and I had that feeling. Before I did, I decided to check the coils...morzh — 06:02 PM
An attempt to remove the Field Coil from a G speaker
Thanks Chas, sure will give it a look!morzh — 03:39 PM
An attempt to remove the Field Coil from a G speaker
Mike, Lookup  murrayatuptown on ARF. Seems he has a dilemma with surplus field coils. Could get lucky and have what y...Chas — 01:26 PM
Atwater-Kent 84, restoration.
Hello Mike, I have not checked to see if my console has a fuse or not and far as sets go I have early 30s General Motor...radiorich — 11:25 AM
Atwater-Kent 84, restoration.
Ron I forgot, but when you said "phone number", I remembered, caus I usually remember how I act when I need...morzh — 11:12 AM
Atwater-Kent 84, restoration.
You have an extensive collection of Philcos, Mike! I’m always excited to see each new one. Agreed on the power supply fu...jrblasde — 10:50 AM
462ron
Hi Mike, that 84 sure looks great. You don’t often see these antique radios with a fuse like yours has. I usually instal...462ron — 10:22 AM
Atwater-Kent 84, restoration.
Hello Mike, Wow ! far as my AK it does work and the cabinet is in nice shape so is my chassis anyway here is a photo of...radiorich — 02:59 AM
Atwater-Kent 84, restoration.
Nice radio, Mike! Here's hoping it was well rebuilt. Take care and BE HEALTHY! GaryGarySP — 12:12 AM
Atwater-Kent 84, restoration.
Rich yes, this is the way I got it. I have just put it on the table and took it apart. I suspect it even might work,...morzh — 11:31 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 4219 online users. [Complete List]
» 2 Member(s) | 4217 Guest(s)
AvatarAvatar

>