Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

37-61 Open SW Oscillator Coil - Proposed Fix
#1

I'm working on a 37-61. The primary (feedback winding) of the Short Wave oscillator coil, part 10, (lugs 3 and 4) is open. The schematic is here:
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel...013208.pdf

The feedback winding appears to be inside the form or otherwise not accessable. As a fix, I am thinking about trying to wind a feedback winding on the outside of the form, near the cold end. The tuned winding is about 18 turns of fairly heavy wire. I am thinking that 3-4 turns for a feedback winding, of fine wire, should work OK (although I only have a 50% chance of getting the winding direction correct!) But the coil is fairly accessable.

Any suggestions? Alternatives?

Thanks
#2

I would try it! Youve nothing to loose. Experimenting with different amt of "turns" both clockwise & (vs) counterclockwise 50/50 chance,may yield best results, to get your set working. I remember yrs ago I had similar success with just a few-turns of small 18 ga solid insulated wire on a very old 28 model Gloritone Cathedral AM set with similar probs. I used a small pc of cardboard ( center of paper towel roll type),..to wrap around the orig coil 1st, then experimented with the new windings in both directions before I acheived success.Go for it!! Icon_biggrin
#3

I decided I could not live with my originally proposed fix, so I decided to try and repair the coil. In the photo below, the Short Wave oscillator coil is the one to the top left. You will notice it is the only one with a DOUBLE form.

[Image: http://mcclellans.com/3761.jpg]

I first removed the coil from the RF Subchassis assembly - not an easy task! I noticed that the top lead of the OUTER coil, which is about #20 wire, passed all the way through the coil (both the inside and outside forms). So I pulled it back through the coil and then secured it with tape to prevent the outer winding from unwinding (held only by wax at this point). It was obvious by looking from the bottom that the inner coil form did not extend the whole length. Next I inserted a 25 watt pencil soldering iron tip into the top of the coil and moved it around to free the inner coil form. I correctly guessed that it was only held by wax. Once the wax on the OUTSIDE of the coil form started to melt, I was able to push out the INNER form using a screwdriver.

After the wax was melted off the inner coil form, the Philco green disease was obvious! I started unwinding the coil, but it was broken at about the same place on each turn. I removed the entire coil. The impressions left made it obvious how many turns were needed, as well as the winding direction. IIRC, I think it was about 16 turns. I rewound the coil using #38 cotton covered enamel wire. Once continuity was determined, the inner coil was re-inserted into the outer coil form (the trick is to align it so that the top of the outer coil can be reinserted through both forms).

The coil was then reinstalled and tested. We'll see how it works once I complete the restoration.

The RF subchassis restoration is complete - with all caps restuffed and one resistor replaced.




Users browsing this thread:
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
I’ve consulted a couple of the books which I got from Jim Koehler, Elements of Radio Servicing (Marcus and Levy, 1947) a...jrblasde — 10:58 PM
Gloritone 27 Radio
Richard, Radiotrope was one of the many nameplates coming out of the Marion, Indiana U.S. Radio and Television Corp plan...Eliot Ness — 10:12 PM
[split] New member...
Oh... That link is gold man! Thank you so much. I'll see if I can get this thing fixed and will post the results on...HowardWoodard — 08:10 PM
[split] New member...
Gosh. I always re-discovered how to do it, took me 2-3 minutes every time. Now that I think of it, the c-clip is there b...morzh — 07:17 PM
38-690 Gill Cloth
Yeah, this one is not a chevron pattern. Ask Mike Katz, if he has something that is similar.morzh — 07:02 PM
38-690 Gill Cloth
Hi Folks, Is anyone currently selling a good reproduction of the 38-890 grill cloth? Thanks Stevetargeteye — 06:57 PM
[split] New member...
@morzh: As you can see from the pics I included, there is no clip where the vernier shaft comes out of the brass coarse ...HowardWoodard — 06:56 PM
[split] New member...
I think where the shaft comes out of the brass piece, there should be a clip.morzh — 06:47 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Well, you're right but the AVC gets to the control grid through the IF secondary, no direct connection to the control gr...RodB — 06:36 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Where do I look? 7B7 Suppressor? Both these radios seem to connect the SG to AVC. Which I am not sure why, but then ...morzh — 06:27 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 5547 online users. [Complete List]
» 1 Member(s) | 5546 Guest(s)
Avatar

>