Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Superior Instruments TV-11 Tube Checker Tip
#1

Hi, all, I have a TV-11 that always seemed to test even very weak  tubes as "good." The TV-11 is a simple emission, shorts, and noise tube  tester, but many people consider it one of the better ones for finding bad tubes. I don't know much about that, but I like it because it is easy and fast to use for basic tube checks.

When I got this TV-11, I went through all the restoration procedures and fixed some obvious problems and calibrated it. Everything worked well, but I noticed that its quality test rarely showed a tube as weak—even those that I know test very weak on other good emission testers, show "replace" on transconductance tests,  and are not good performers in their actual radio circuits. Just for one example, my B&K 667 showed emission of a 12SK7 as about 40%, Jackson 648 showed "weak" to "questionable," and the Hickok 600A clearly showed "replace." (These are all restored and calibrated testers.) The TV-11 showed well into the "good" range at 65/100. For comparison, two thoroughly tested new-old-stock 12SK7's read about 85 to 90/100 on the TV-11. Other old, weakling 12SK7 tubes also read "good."

As a side note, it's interesting that the TV-11 uses the same "load" setting (3) for most tubes from 12SK7 to 6L6. I'm not sure how well that works...but that's the way they designed it.

What I ended up doing was just adding some resistance in series with the 15K ohm resistor in the TV-11, between the quality test switch terminal and the lever switch bank. I didn't want to change the line voltage calibration because it would change the actual heater voltages that it applies to the tubes. That 15K is only in circuit when the quality test is done, and not the line voltage set-up. I hope this all makes sense. By experiment with several new and known weak tubes, I determined that adding a 1.8K ohm (in my tester's case) in series brought the readings down to where those new 12SK7 read about 75-80/100, a new 6L6GC read about the same, and the previously mentioned weak tubes read "replace" or "weak."

Anyway, I hope this helps someone who wants to use this popular old tube checker but has the same problems. I don't expect all testers to agree or be 100% reliable, but when you have tubes that you positively know are in pretty terrible emission and performance condition, you don't want your TV-11 to consistently tell you they are good.

Rob


[Image: https://s26.postimg.org/p9fzgr1q1/TV-11.jpg]
#2

I have picked a tv 11,some has removed the selenium rectifier,thanks for info you published,will help a lot on repair & calibration.




Users browsing this thread:
[-]
Recent Posts
B&K 1077B no video
Hello Tim, I would if it's a leaky Capacitor So are all 3 of those B- voltages low then ? Sincerely Richardradiorich — 01:55 AM
B&K 1077B no video
I found a schematic and think I have the problem traced down to the minus power supply. I have very low voltages that go...TV MAN — 12:41 AM
RCA 15X
I'd try replacing the bulb first and if that doesn't do it, then change the 35Z5 and see if the problem goes away.NostalgiaRadioTime — 12:28 AM
B&K 1077B no video
Hello Tim, I have that exact unit in my shop too plus a Sencore unit there are times I like one or other !!. Sincerely...radiorich — 11:07 PM
RCA 15X
Everthing goes at once, maybe it's the cold weather, I have had 2 dial strings break and no my little RCA is having dial...Paul Philco322 — 10:26 PM
Philco 91 Schematic
Hi Dan, I can't explain this specific resistor but I have seen the use of a switch to apply B+ voltage to screen gri...RodB — 09:36 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
I suspect it's been repaired before. And I suspect whoever repaired it, wanted to re-use old transistors' pin stubs in o...morzh — 09:24 PM
B&K 1077B no video
Thanks Rich! I'll take a look and see what he has. I know there's more modern equipment to be had, but this one I know a...TV MAN — 09:11 PM
B&K 1077B no video
Hello Tim, Here is a link to restoration of one on Phil's old radios site ! Sincerely Richard bk1077bradiorich — 09:01 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
I'm a little befuddled on this one. Should X5 and X4 be tied together like this?  It looks like someone added this at so...R3Sons — 07:33 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>