Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Philco Speaker
#1

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this phorum and new to electronics. I have a question about a Philco speaker that I have. It came from a 1934 Model 14x. I am trying to find out the specs for this speaker. Is there a place where this stuff is posted?

The information on the speaker is 32-9035G 9-3 which is printed on the field magnet coil. The Output transformer has the number 32-705 2N and there is a U-3 printed on the big iron back.

Specifically, I am trying to find out:

1. The impedance of the speaker coil.
2. The operating voltage of the electro-magnet.
3. The primary and secondary impedance of the output transformer.
4. The operating voltage and current of the output transformer.
5. The output wattage of the speaker.

I have measured the speaker coil resistance and it measures 2.3 ohms. I'm guessing that it might then have a 3 ohm impedance?

The Resistance of the Electromagnet measures 1123 ohms. Does that sound about right?

The resistance on the primary of the output transformer measures 170 ohms and the secondary measures 0.6 ohms. Does all this sound right?

Thanks for your guidance.
Daniel
#2

Welcome to the Phorum!

Lots of info on speakers is available for download in the Downloadable Files section and then click on the speakers.zip file and unzip it. Line 185 of the excel spreadsheet shows the U-3 speaker info.
#3

The model 14uses Philco's class A triode connected push/pull 42 tube w/a 42 driver. This set up is designed to achieve 10w with very low distortion. In the triode configuration the 42's operate at a lower impedance (abt 6K) than in the typical pentode configuration (abt 14K).

When my pals were reading comic books
I was down in the basement in my dad's
workshop. Perusing his Sam's Photofoacts
Vol 1-50 admiring the old set and trying to
figure out what all those squiggly meant.
Circa 1966
Now I think I've got!

Terry
#4

Thanks, that's really helpful. The info on this speaker shows that the rated field current is 70mA and the DC field coil resistance is 1140 ohms. So the working voltage for the field coil is 80 volts, right?
#5

Rated current does not mean actual current drawn. The current will depend mostly on the working regime of the output stage. Which will change somewhat depending on the output power. But the actual current will probably be less that the rated current.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#6

So, what kind of voltage would work best for this field coil? Is there a max and a min working voltage that I should keep within?




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
The speaker table error?
G  10-1/2"       65, 76, 87, 95 Push-Pull 45's 2766 0.7 550 3200 H   10-1/2"    77, 96 Push-Pull...morzh — 09:26 PM
A Marconi model 86
I have a Stromberg, one of the early ones, seems early 30s. This is what I call a back breaker. None of the early Philc...morzh — 08:28 PM
A Marconi model 86
A backbreaker.....PaulPaul Philco322 — 08:12 PM
A Marconi model 86
>>What a behemoth! A Juggernaut.morzh — 07:47 PM
Philco 70 antenna lead
I am not sure I understood about the coils and the mush. I looked an more than one coil in 20, 70, 90, 60, Zeniths and ...morzh — 07:46 PM
A Marconi model 86
:e_biggrin: What a behemoth!  I hope the final result is as much a quality sounding example!  Keep us posted on your pro...GarySP — 07:32 PM
A Marconi model 86
I should add that the double conversion may only be used on the shortwave bands, but I haven't looked at the schematic t...Arran — 07:27 PM
Philco 70 antenna lead
Yes, that wire will not pick up much interference as routed - the RF at that level won't be affected, and if you have st...radio1 — 07:26 PM
Philco model 60
I'm also a member of MARC. Did you attend the Vintage Electronics Expo in Waterford, MI last month? That's where I got...GarySP — 07:22 PM
A Marconi model 86
Dan Double conversion is using two IF converters instead of one. This improves the image response. morzh — 07:15 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 3266 online users. [Complete List]
» 1 Member(s) | 3265 Guest(s)
Avatar

>