Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Philco 650 restoration.
#1

This was my 650 when I brought it home:

[Image: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2054/2530...a986_z.jpg]

The veneer on the sides was completely missing, the top was quite messed up, and someone had tried and failed to strip the control area (is there a proper term for that area?). Also, the cabinet was generally in a falling-apart state.

This is only my second attempt at restoring a cabinet. The first one I did was in almost pristine shape compared to this one.

I largely disassembled the thing. The top came off, the control area came out, the sides detached, the grill bars removed. In most cases what little glue remained holding it together gave up with only slight tapping from a dead-blow hammer.

This is my first experience with wood veneer application. It was not a good one. Veneering a curved surface turns out to be surprisingly hard. It went so bad that I will have to redo it some year. I'm not going to show pictures of the sides...where it is quite ick. I have now commenced collecting enough parts to put together a vacuum bag veneer press for the next attempt.

Here is the result. I have yet to order some toning lacquer to give some of the details (the vertical bars, the grills bars, and the crenelations on top) some more contrast.

[Image: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5345...59d0_z.jpg]

Although I am not happy over all with it, I can at least now handle pulling the cabinet out of my garage and into the house proper.
#2

Well, Audin, I can understand about not being happy with your work. I've been there, more than once. But in the photos, it looks to me like you've done a very good job of repairing that cabinet. Icon_clap

Now for toning it, you can see in your first photo what parts need to be toned Extra Dark Walnut - basically, all of the trim including the speaker grille and surrounding trim, the long trim up the sides of the front panel and speaker grille, the top and bottom trim. The top of the cabinet and the sides will need Medium Walnut. It should look great when you're finished. Many of these cabinets do not get refinished properly, and lose some of that dark trim they should have.

Good job so far...and good luck finishing it up!

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#3

It looks good! A 650 console is a tough one to find, and a nice addition to your collection.
Agree that veneer application on anything other than a flat run can be challenging. Additionally you often discover that angles have migrated from 90 degrees and flat surfaces are really un-flat enough to leave air pockets beneath your new veneer.
#4

Follow Ron's advice on the toner application. Other than that it looks real good. I may try some veneer work this summer on a top of a 20's battery set. I just hope it comes out as nice as yours did.
#5

audin Wrote:This was my 650 when I brought it home:

[Image: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2054/2530...a986_z.jpg]

The veneer on the sides was completely missing, the top was quite messed up, and someone had tried and failed to strip the control area (is there a proper term for that area?). Also, the cabinet was generally in a falling-apart state.

This is only my second attempt at restoring a cabinet. The first one I did was in almost pristine shape compared to this one.

I largely disassembled the thing. The top came off, the control area came out, the sides detached, the grill bars removed. In most cases what little glue remained holding it together gave up with only slight tapping from a dead-blow hammer.

This is my first experience with wood veneer application. It was not a good one. Veneering a curved surface turns out to be surprisingly hard. It went so bad that I will have to redo it some year. I'm not going to show pictures of the sides...where it is quite ick. I have now commenced collecting enough parts to put together a vacuum bag veneer press for the next attempt.

Here is the result. I have yet to order some toning lacquer to give some of the details (the vertical bars, the grills bars, and the crenelations on top) some more contrast.

[Image: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5345...59d0_z.jpg]

Although I am not happy over all with it, I can at least now handle pulling the cabinet out of my garage and into the house proper.

I have found that using either band clamps or contact cement seems to work well and holding down veneer around a curve, another way is to make some curved glue blocks that conform to the profile of the curve. If you do decide to redo some of the veneer work I would like to make a suggestion, the top of the cabinet would have originally used book matched stump or burl walnut veneer (French not black walnut) for the center section to match the control panel.
Best Regards
Arran




Users browsing this thread:
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco 91 Restore Code ??
Or you could just square the current :lol: As for the values, they are dependent on the 1 or 2-speaker system. The...morzh — 05:46 PM
Philco 91 Restore Code ??
If you know the fc resistance you can use 120 ma nominal current through the resistor to get the voltage drop then calcu...RodB — 05:21 PM
Philco 91 Restore Code ??
Thanks Mike. I at least know why it is there if I don't fully understand it. I see where you talk about a cap and resist...dconant — 04:49 PM
Philco 91 Restore Code ??
Well, this cap you showed cannot possibly, due to the way it is constructed, be 1000pF (0.001). It can be in tens of pF....morzh — 03:13 PM
Philco 91 Restore Code ??
I have two schematics for this radio one shows the 47 block (126-226) and the other (121-221) does not. My radio does no...dconant — 02:32 PM
Philco 91 Restore Code ??
No, that cannot be the 47. The 47 is a regular backelite block cap. Look at the chassis picture, it is shown there. Rig...morzh — 01:45 PM
Philco 91 Restore Code ??
I have changed the title of this thread from Philco 91 Schematic. I have gone through most of the cap replacements. I...dconant — 01:26 PM
462ron
Here is an online transistor substitution site… Ron462ron — 08:44 AM
1930s Stewart-Warner Tombstone Radio need help identifying model number
One way to repair a broken wire on a coil is to take a copper strand out of some 18 gauge electrical cord, make a &quo...captainclock1988 — 12:55 AM
B&K 1077B no video
Hello Tim, I once had a Jcpenny 13inch tv /monitor built by NEC come into my repairshop it would start acting up at tim...radiorich — 10:59 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 2788 online users. [Complete List]
» 2 Member(s) | 2786 Guest(s)
AvatarAvatar

>