Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Need Help with 49-405 Electronics
#7

I suspect you're not quite understanding the flow of current through a tube... you can't just measure resistance from B+ to chassis because what you will probably end up measuring is a phantom... the charge in the capacitors will give you some kind of reading... which will change slowly since when you're doing a resistance measurement you are applying a small voltage to the circuit under test, which will build up the charge in the caps.

There are only two component types in the radio (this is best-guess since I can't find your schematic - I'm basing on the 49-500) that will pass DC from B+ to B- and one of those will only do that if its failed - the capacitors.  Assuming they are good (because you've recapped the set) then the only path for electrons to travel is inside the tubes.  

You can't just measure that with a resistance meter because (just as they are drawn in the schematic) each element in a tube is separated by an air-gap inside the glass envelope - there is no direct connection.  The electrons will not flow without first being heated and attracted.  Heating is done by applying a voltage to the filament, which excites the electrons on the cathode and creates a cloud of happy free electrons whizzing about.  The second stage is applying a large positive voltage to the plate (and/or screen grid but ignore this for the moment) which draws the negatively charged electrons from the cathode to itself in a constant stream.  Thus, electron flow occurs and the circuit completes from B+ to B-.  No heater and/or no plate voltage = no current flow = no path from B+ to B-

As far as I am aware, there is no way to measure what I think you're trying to measure the way you're trying to measure it.  That is, of course, if I understand what you were trying to do correctly?

Also, you may have also inadvertently shorted one or more of the filaments out of the circuit while taking voltage measurements - causing the other filaments to have to carry significantly more voltage - so that last problem you mentioned could be another dead heater (or two).  Hopefully not, but thats my guess from your description.

Hope that helps

Steve

There are no personal problems that can't be overcome with the liberal application of high explosives


Messages In This Thread
Need Help with 49-405 Electronics - by Winky Dink - 11-08-2015, 04:03 PM
RE: Need Help with 49-405 Electronics - by kiwi_steve - 11-13-2015, 04:07 AM
RE: 49-504 Trimmer Trouble - by Winky Dink - 11-19-2015, 04:18 AM



Users browsing this thread: 9 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
1 - 0v - correct 2 - 0v - correct 3 - 0v - --------------------- both 3 and 4 should be the same. Check L2 for being ope...morzh — 05:15 PM
B&K 1077B no video
I'm going to get back into it tonight. but I disconnected the 2 main resistors off this supply going to different parts ...TV MAN — 04:04 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
Sorry. The test points are as follows: 1 - 0v 2 - 0v 3 - 0v 4 - 12v 5 - 0v 6 - 11.9v 7 - 12v 8 - 12v 9 - 12v...R3Sons — 02:09 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
OK, so 18 and 19 as they should be. What is "everything else?" Try to be more specific in your descriptions:...morzh — 12:44 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
Yeah, I'm still on 5TPO. Sorry, my bad, points 1 and 2 should be points 18 and 19 (easy mistake  :think: )  X7 is shown ...R3Sons — 11:42 AM
Philco 40-120C Filament Wiring
Hi folks, I'm in the process of restoring a Philco 40-120C and I'm finding the wiring to be a bit puzzling. According to...bluecap — 11:28 AM
462ron
Hi Levi, here’s just a thought. Most radios run the oscillator higher than the dial setting. Say you set your radio to 1...462ron — 10:10 AM
1930s Stewart-Warner Tombstone Radio need help identifying model number
Another Update: I found a couple of damaged coils inside this radio that might have something to do with why this radio ...captainclock1988 — 10:51 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
If you are still on 5TPO, you lost me there. What X7? What Points 1 and 2?morzh — 08:37 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
Quick progress report: X7 is broken. Only one leg soldered, the other missing and the diode is cracked. I've replaced...R3Sons — 05:05 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 6687 online users. [Complete List]
» 2 Member(s) | 6685 Guest(s)
AvatarAvatar

>