Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Resistors Volatges
#1

Hi to all,

I have a basic question on working voltages of resistors?

When I used to know tube circuit like the back of my hand, gees the knowledge has kind of flowed out of my brain. Just an couple of days ago, more like 45 years +, I never was concerned about resistor working voltages in most circuits. Today it looks like that could be a problem with most circuits running at a lot less voltage.

I have been noticing that most 1/2 W resistors have a working voltage of between 300 to 350 Volts that are on ebay. I have tried to look at Mouser catalog, but that one is very confusing with so many variables to wade through.

I have noticed either film or carbon has the same working voltage so that does not seem to be a problem. My question is what do you do when a set has a higher working voltage? Do you use the ebay ones? Or were do you get the higher rated voltages.

Or do you even worry about running these resistors at maximum working voltage or a little over. (I have a Philco set that runs around 400 volts on the plates by the schematic but the secondary on the transformer is around 700 volts, have not been able to figured out were the rest is going to).

I hope I have not confused any one to much as I kind of ramble on. At least that is what my wife says.



Thanks Ed.

This is my therapy for keeping my brain from turning into mush in my younger years. I hope.
#2

If you calculate that the resistor will actually see more than its rated voltage across it, you can use 2 resistors of half the value each. In that way you double the voltage rating. Make sure the resistors are not touching any metal chassis parts or other wiring, as this is a place they may arc over.
#3

Ed

The voltage on the plates of the rectifier is
1) AC voltage
2) The rectifier is centertapped meaning that the actually you only get half of each winding working at the time. This is the same as non-center-tapped with a bridge rectifier. That is your 700VAC rectify as 350VAC would in full bridge.

This said, 1W film resistors from say Vishay-Dale have WV up to 500V. I use 1W.
However 1/2W WV is typical 350V. In most cases that is quite enough.

Now you have to realize what WV is, it is pretty much the breakdown voltage where after crossing it (well, there will be a good margin) the spark occurs across the part.
Which does not mean you can apply the WV or even below.

Say, ,1W 10K resistor has WV=700V but 700V will produce 49W dissipation so leave it on for 1s and the resistor will go poof!
It still makes sense as you can apply duty cycle, say, 2% and still not exceed the power rating.

In the radios there will rarely be 350V voltage across any one resistor; if it is use 1W, or as Tom suggested, two in series.
#4

If you want to know several places to get higher wattage for older radio's pm me i'll link you some.
#5

Thanks for all your answers. All makes sense. At one time before I had a brain leak, due to age-----,
I hope in time I can reverse leakage.
Ed.
#6

As I understand it, the breakdown voltage is rated from one side to the other, or to the external insulation resistance which tends to be higher. As mentioned, rare is the case where you have 350 volts of potential across a resistor in an old radio.




Users browsing this thread: 4 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Silly me, you are right! I read and wrote nF, but was thinking pF.jrblasde — 10:48 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
0.01uF and 10nF are the same capacitances :lol: Its the rating. Yours are rated to 500V and the Y2 are up to 300V. Obvi...morzh — 10:41 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
You’re right, yours are much smaller. I must admit that I ordered these without much regard to size. I ordered them back...jrblasde — 10:29 PM
What should I offer?
Thanks, that makes sense. I searched Hepplewhite on Google, and saw some fancy dining chairs.jrblasde — 10:23 PM
Atwater-Kent 84, restoration.
My memory had not failed me when I was writing about those inductances. I found them, both 5.6mH and 10mH, both small ax...morzh — 10:21 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Joseph, Yes you could do that too. But why did you choose to buy these conspicuously large capacitors? 10nF Y2 caps sho...morzh — 10:02 PM
What should I offer?
Thomas Sheraton gave his name to the style. That is others in 19 century took his name and assigned it to the style. G...morzh — 09:59 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Excellent point! Thank you, sir.jrblasde — 09:58 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Hello Joseph, That looks great only thing I would make sure is that screw has good clean area where it contacts the gr...radiorich — 09:50 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Here we are. Boomer Sooner!  :lol: jrblasde — 09:40 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 3225 online users. [Complete List]
» 1 Member(s) | 3224 Guest(s)
Avatar

>