Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Variations in 610B Schematic per Service Bulletins
#1

Hi,
I am very close to completing a restoration on my Philco 610B radio, but as I finalize things I have been looking over some service bulletin information and comparing notes from various forums, etc.  It has raised a couple of questions on which I'd be interested in opinions.

One document I have from Philco is titled "Philco, 1936 Changes in models Since Publications of Each Service Bulletin." It is copyrighted as 1936 but no other specific date.  It contains the various Philco radios and includes this about the Model 610:

"Beginning with Run No. 15, the oscillator circuit was changed to improve the oscillator action at 6.0 M.C. Resistors (17) (51000 ohm) and (18) (25,000 ohm) were removed. A resistor (32,000 ohms), Part No. 33-332133 was added from the switch terminal side of the condensor (7) to ground. A 20 ohm resistor, Part No. 33-020133 was connected between the 6A7 cathode and ground."

Now all the schematics I have found still show those resistors 17 & 18 (though one varies from 51,000 to 50,000 on one) except for a posting I found on the Antique Radio Forum where one person noted they were missing from his own radio.

I'd like to make the circuits work optimally and wondered whether I should follow this recommendation since I cannot find any other information regarding their removal.  I can try it without them connected, but wondered also if there is in fact a schematic to support their removal?

Supposedly the runs were stamped on the chassis, but all I could find on mine were two numbers stamped in ink: an "812" and what looks like a "62". Chassis number (if it helps) on the radio is stamped as A96226.

Thanks for clarifying and recommendations in advance.

Jim
#2

There are often changes that are not documented in schematics, only in the service bulletins....(and sometimes changes not documented anywhere).
#3

I recently finished a 610, and the service bulletins correct several mistakes on the parts map. The schematic is fairly accurate, but the parts map had several mislabeled parts. You can get the updates here: http://philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=215

Charlie in San Antonio




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
1930s Stewart-Warner Tombstone Radio need help identifying model number
Another Update: I found a couple of damaged coils inside this radio that might have something to do with why this radio ...captainclock1988 — 10:51 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
If you are still on 5TPO, you lost me there. What X7? What Points 1 and 2?morzh — 08:37 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
Quick progress report: X7 is broken. Only one leg soldered, the other missing and the diode is cracked. I've replaced...R3Sons — 05:05 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
Oh...and you have electrolytic caps there. All need to go and be replaced.morzh — 04:36 PM
6TPZ and 5TPO Radio Help
Thanks, will do.R3Sons — 01:25 PM
1930s Stewart-Warner Tombstone Radio need help identifying model number
UPDATE: I was able to pick up a signal generator on the cheap (amazingly enough) on feebay and I did an IF alignment fol...captainclock1988 — 09:53 AM
Philco 91 Schematic
Hi Rod, The resistor connects to pin 4 and the ungrounded side of block 9. From pin 9 of the RF tube to one side of ...dconant — 09:34 AM
Just got a 49-1613 need to know...everything!
I just found your post. I have this exact same model, and have had it since 1985 when I was 15 years old! I performed a ...MuzzcoVW — 09:11 AM
B&K 1077B no video
Hello Tim, I would if it's a leaky Capacitor So are all 3 of those B- voltages low then ? Sincerely Richardradiorich — 01:55 AM
B&K 1077B no video
I found a schematic and think I have the problem traced down to the minus power supply. I have very low voltages that go...TV MAN — 12:41 AM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>